Footscray Trugo Club site concept plan

Consultation has concluded

In mid 2016 Council called for contributions regarding the future use of the Footscray Trugo Club site at 139 Buckley St Seddon. The consultation generated very strong interest with more than 350 people responding to the online survey. Council carefully considered the feedback in line with relevant Council strategies and has now developed a Draft Concept Plan which can be viewed on the right side of the screen.

298 of the survey respondents suggested the site be used for trugo. A large number (125) also suggested the site should be open to the public and used for various open space uses. A number of respondents noted that trugo and open space could be compatible uses.

Here is some further feedback on the responses Council received and the way these have been addressed in developing the draft plan.

Use of the site for trugo

Use of the site for trugo is supported given the strong response from the community. Allowing an open lawn area for casual trugo and general use as open space could achieve a flexible and multi-use space.

Existing pavilion building

Of the 298 respondents suggesting trugo, 25 per cent also mentioned retention and restoration of the existing pavilion.

The pavilion in its current state is in a very poor condition and would require substantial investment in order to be made safe for use, including the need for a toilet.

Council decided that following Stage 1 implementation the success and growth of the trugo club would be assessed over the following 2 years. If the trugo club continues to grow the pavilion requirements will be considered at this time. This may involve the retention, restoration or replacement of the structure.

Commercial venue

Several submissions suggested a café, bar or other commercial use of the pavilion building (25 contributions received). This is not supported as the Maribyrnong Municipal Strategic Statement on economic development discourages retail development outside of identified activity centres.

Commercial activity is inconsistent with the Maribyrnong Open Space Strategy recommendations for the site.

Community garden

Suggestions for a community garden in this location (25 contributions received) are not currently supported by Council. Council's priority is to focus on supporting existing gardens in order to make them sustainable in their membership and management. The development of any new community gardens will be encouraged on ancillary land (such as surplus rail land) rather than usable open space.

Playground

Several people suggested a playground be provided at this location (10). Given the small size of the site, the incorporation of a playground would preclude use of the site for trugo, and is therefore not supported at this location. The existing playground at Bristow Reserve on Pilgrim Street, located 300m from the site, serves this neighbourhood.

Dog park

Several requests were received for the site to be used as an off leash dog park (16). The small size of the site makes this use impractical. There would not be a large enough space for dogs to run freely and such intense use in a small area would lead to great difficulty in maintaining any acceptable grass surface. It would also preclude use of the site for trugo.

Please let us know what you think of the Draft Concept Plan in the guestbook below. These comments will be collated and considered in finalising the Plan.

In mid 2016 Council called for contributions regarding the future use of the Footscray Trugo Club site at 139 Buckley St Seddon. The consultation generated very strong interest with more than 350 people responding to the online survey. Council carefully considered the feedback in line with relevant Council strategies and has now developed a Draft Concept Plan which can be viewed on the right side of the screen.

298 of the survey respondents suggested the site be used for trugo. A large number (125) also suggested the site should be open to the public and used for various open space uses. A number of respondents noted that trugo and open space could be compatible uses.

Here is some further feedback on the responses Council received and the way these have been addressed in developing the draft plan.

Use of the site for trugo

Use of the site for trugo is supported given the strong response from the community. Allowing an open lawn area for casual trugo and general use as open space could achieve a flexible and multi-use space.

Existing pavilion building

Of the 298 respondents suggesting trugo, 25 per cent also mentioned retention and restoration of the existing pavilion.

The pavilion in its current state is in a very poor condition and would require substantial investment in order to be made safe for use, including the need for a toilet.

Council decided that following Stage 1 implementation the success and growth of the trugo club would be assessed over the following 2 years. If the trugo club continues to grow the pavilion requirements will be considered at this time. This may involve the retention, restoration or replacement of the structure.

Commercial venue

Several submissions suggested a café, bar or other commercial use of the pavilion building (25 contributions received). This is not supported as the Maribyrnong Municipal Strategic Statement on economic development discourages retail development outside of identified activity centres.

Commercial activity is inconsistent with the Maribyrnong Open Space Strategy recommendations for the site.

Community garden

Suggestions for a community garden in this location (25 contributions received) are not currently supported by Council. Council's priority is to focus on supporting existing gardens in order to make them sustainable in their membership and management. The development of any new community gardens will be encouraged on ancillary land (such as surplus rail land) rather than usable open space.

Playground

Several people suggested a playground be provided at this location (10). Given the small size of the site, the incorporation of a playground would preclude use of the site for trugo, and is therefore not supported at this location. The existing playground at Bristow Reserve on Pilgrim Street, located 300m from the site, serves this neighbourhood.

Dog park

Several requests were received for the site to be used as an off leash dog park (16). The small size of the site makes this use impractical. There would not be a large enough space for dogs to run freely and such intense use in a small area would lead to great difficulty in maintaining any acceptable grass surface. It would also preclude use of the site for trugo.

Please let us know what you think of the Draft Concept Plan in the guestbook below. These comments will be collated and considered in finalising the Plan.

Introduction

I think it would be wonderful if the club was a hybrid space. Specifically part cafe part trugo club. In principle I understand that this is against Council's Strategic Statement on economic development (which discourages retail outside of the identified activity centres) as stated above, however in reality the ability to grab a coffee or small bite to eat would attract more people to use the space. A social space like this would flourish if it was supported by a commercial venture like a cafe. Forget the strategic plans and look at the function of the space.

Jo over 2 years ago

Multiple use of the site is a good start - maybe additional gaming opportunities, e.g. bocce. If MCC intends to further redevelop/restore the site, please DON'T use the same 'award-winning' designers used for Maidstone Hall & Public Tennis Courts site as this has not resulted in an efficient use of the site. Please DO listen to the residents and ratepayers. If you want people to use the facility, then it needs to offer them something they want. Maidstone Public Tennis Courts is an example where MCC didn't listen to the people and now spends considerable time and effort enticing groups from OUTSIDE the community to use the site. Yes, it's fabulous that the site was restored rather than sold off, and it is a jewel for the area. Unfortunately only 7% of locals indicated that they wanted to use the site for tennis but instead wanted other uses, especially multi-use. The restoration of this site was more about having a replacement for the botched Johnson Reserve Courts nearby. Although having a toilet and kitchen on site is an absolute must - the limited kitchen facilities in turn limit the use of the Pavilion. The toilet is a huge waste of public programmable space. It has a huge footprint which could have been used otherwise AND the toilet opens directly onto the courts - little privacy and the one toilet takes up 1/3 of the site. The same can be said for the storage areas - for what purpose? The only time we've seen them used was to store a staffer's handbag on Opening Day. The nets stay out permanently, rollers and mowers aren't used, so why such large storage areas? All that Eastern area now taken up by stores and THE toilet could have been used for weekend workshops, e.g. bike repairs, to enable the facility to be used for purposes other than tennis. Further poor use of space on the Western side of the Pavilion, with fixed picnic table and chairs taking up space which would have been used for access and/or parking for event vehicles, dropping off equipment, but now the lane has been closed off. The table has no shade, and is out in the baking sun, so becomes very hot and is unusable in Summer, and no evidence of use in almost 2 years, with people preferring to use the Maidstone Hall gardens, which is the most passive parkland design possible. Heritage signage from the site has still not been returned to site and the the original scoreboard signage with the 'Maidstone Public Tennis Courts' signage were pasted over with modern adhesive signage. So much for heritage restoration! Please take heed of how poorly this restoration was managed at Maidstone with regard to both end-users and conservation principles and try to do the right thing in this instance.

Friends Of Maidstone Hall over 2 years ago

No club can survive without the basic facilities of access to toilets, and shelter from the weather. Trugo games last for approx 45 min, competitions for several hours, and some of our social days have lasted for 3 - 4 hours. Most of the members of other clubs are elderly.We could not possibly invite other clubs to come and play at Footscray without these basic facilities. There is currently a high level of community support for preserving this game of the west. If council proceeds with the idea of accessing the viability of the Footscray Trugo club over the next 2 years without providing the basic necessities to allow that to happen, I can not see how any club could survive under these conditions.

Stuart over 2 years ago

I support the reinstatement of the trugo pavilion & use for club events. Toilets will help the space be family friendly & create a usable space for the community.

Dee over 2 years ago

Would love to see Trugo return to the historic Footscray site but we definitely need toilets, power and a sink at the very least so we can have BBQ's and tea and coffee while playing a long session of Trugo! And a place to lock up our Trugo gear... A multi-purpose building would be awesome...

Rob-deBob over 2 years ago

Last weekend I gave trugo a go. I connected with my neighbours, played a game created by my historic peers & spent the afternoon outside while proud of Footscray. I loved the afternoon. I support any attempts to facilitate the community coming together & cermenting a sharedidentity. I support your recommendations to remodel & activive the trugo site in Seddon. However toilets are needed & a club room. Please recognise basic facilities are required. #alooisneeded

Amy Sue over 2 years ago

It is excellent to see the council giving this proposal serious consideration. This is clearly a unique sporting heritage site and everything should be done to preserve the Trugo field and original amenities. At the same time there is no reason this can not involve diverse community participation and use. To simply demolish the buildings would be a loss and if this is not understood now it will be in the near future. Avoid the regret. The incremental development that has occurred over a long period of time on this site relates a story that is worth preserving and at the same it time allows some improvement such as the inclusion of toilets. Of course there is a cost but partners should be sought such as the Bulldogs Football team which have some shared history and various state agencies who should be able to understand the sporting heritage value. We are not trying to preserve a palace here. The cost should not be inflated, this is clearly doable. I wish the council the best in making the right decision here.

Thomas over 2 years ago

Wonderful news and I love the multituse proposal. No toilet will make it difficult to build a presence for the Trugo club or to use the site for any other purpose that involves staying a while.

Rebecca Gelsi over 2 years ago

The Trugo field is a great idea and will be a fantastic way for our community to come together and socialise - much better than another cafe!Please Council can you include a loo? Also BBQ facilities, or a little kitchen, would be great too. Thanks.

Kate R over 2 years ago

The best option would be to try and maintain the clubhouse best as possible and ensure accessibility. Councillors have shown great enthusiasm for this revival project. There is goodwill in the community. So it's unclear why Council is establishing conditions that will ensure the club fails (i.e. two years of playing Trugo without a toilet onsite). The focus should be on making the clubhouse functional and accessible. The condition report shows that most of the works are not needed for three years or more. The most urgent works make up less than a third of the projected cost of stage 1. If cost is the issue, there could be opportunities to seek funding or volunteering or donations for some of the works. Worth exploring, and in keeping with the history of the place. It's also worth thinking about ways that work could happen that would support flexible uses down the track. PS: What are the indicators of success of the two year trial?

Alex Jarvis over 2 years ago

Come on council !!!!!!, with all our rates and not much in return surely a toilet and some significant works is what is required and expected right from the start. Stage 2 should not have to wait for a 2 year evaluation. The community is here and ready to go now!

Shrub over 2 years ago

Toilets; a must!A small kitchen 4 the trugo club would be ideal or maybe even under cover bbqs

B over 2 years ago

Looks fantastic! Would like to see addition of toilets to ensure its success as an inclusive community centre and facility.

Errol Hunt over 2 years ago

The plans look great but you cannot go ahead without toilets. They have to be a priority we can't all walk home mid game.A kitchen is also necessary to boost the potential for the club to host events.Surely the restoration of the club rooms could be a project for a local group wishing to build on their community involvement or their skills base.

cc62 over 2 years ago

No toilets?No kitchen?Not planning ahead or adding value to the Community.

olivia over 2 years ago

It is absolutely essential to incorporate an accessible toilet into this design and a small kitchen as others have mentioned would also be welcomed. Renovation of the clubhouse would be an excellent investment for the community.

Rebekah Jardine over 2 years ago

Looks ok design wise, but 2 years is too long - It definitely needs a toilet and small kitchen sooner rather than later.

Tania over 2 years ago

Stage 1 looks good and well thought out by council, however suggest that a one year consideration period for clubhouse restoration would be more appropriate.As stated by others, without facilities such as toilets and a kitchenette it will be a challenge for the club to host events and grow.

Dan over 2 years ago

This looks like a cheap option for Council. Without toilets and even a small kitchenette it would be impossible to host Trugo games over an afternoon. This site is a historic community asset and deserves a bit more love.Given the lack of open space in our community near enough isn't good enough.

Katie over 2 years ago

Toilets and basic kitchen facilities please! Really without it it is almost pointless. Trugo is a time taking game and it needs a clubhouse not a plain surface. Thank you kindly.

Cengiz over 2 years ago